we have had a letter read the last 2 meetings to all congs attenidng the detroit dc's... seems people are not going, or not booking their hotels.
and the society is pissed!
they are imploring every one to not wait for a new list with new hotels, it is not happening.
I think many are looking online for good hotel rates (e.g. Booking.com) and see that they can get better and closer hotels for a better rate than the WTBTS offers. In this case, Detroit being one of the most violent dangereous cities will not attract either.
If the DCs no longer create the expected Cash, they too will soon be history.
this may have been discussed, but i just recently was told that a km this past year stated that inactive ones are now to be treated as if they are df'd.
is this so?
cynisister.
Not a written rule...but my wife and I faded six years ago after having been in respectively 20 and 40 years. How many active JWs still have any contact with us...indeed ZERO.
i have never seen an episode but my wife loves the show.
we just heard today that our 18 yr. old granddaughter will be an extra in an episode filming now.
guess i'll have to watch it.
Yes, Scully...We had the same thoughts when watching it.
recently attended a sad.. bethel speaker was gushing about the wt's embrace of new technology, in the part of his talk warning about "apostate" web sites.. a loose summary of his comments:.
"and the brothers at headquarters have made it very safe for you to go to our website.
in fact, the brothers talked to the folks at google, and they made a special arrangement so that when you type in 'j w period' into the google search engine, it automatically shows you the jw.org website.
I tried typing jw. in google and while I was typing JWSURVEY showed up on page one and when I hit enter JWFACTS was on page one. Not too smart a move to share that with the dubs, unless he wants them to find this.
i only ask because i hardly ever see them out on the ministry.
it is a very rare sighting to spot them actively engaged in the house to house ministry.
or out on the street work, in the marketplace, etc.. the other reason i ask is because they are constantly pictured as being on the preaching work.
I only get an annual "memorial tract drop-off" visit. I do not see them calling on my neighbors either the rest of the year. They are more than welcome to a respectful debate over a good coffee.
email that's being sent around.
will yet praise thee more and more.- (ps.
1940 "my heart shall rejoice in the salvation."-(ps.
1969 "Lift your heads up, because your deliverance is getting near." - Luke 21:28
This was the yeartext when we first started attending meetings - I was still a young kid. Now 45 years later deliverance has not yet arrived...CULT
pixel's boe letter made me think of this.
i have been out since january 2006. here are the ones i can think of:.
1. deletion of cong.
Add in 2015:No more 2-day Circuit Assemblies
pixel's boe letter made me think of this.
i have been out since january 2006. here are the ones i can think of:.
1. deletion of cong.
Interesting to see is how much the organization and its teachings have changed in the past five years:
Book study has been dropped
Auxiliary Pioneer hours dropped to 30 hours
Both parents can now count four hours each month for family study (was only one of the two)
The magazines have been reduced from 32 to 16 pages
A first JW store has been opened and many have book stands where they can just sit and wait
Brooklyn has been sold off (for over $1B)
Branch offices have been merged and many closed down and sold off (42 closed so far)
The WTBTS is dealing with a number of lawsuits for sexual abuse of children and currently in appeal for one that may set them back for more than $20M
New Elders book, with new DF offences (Brazen Conduct) and a harder stance towards DFed ones (no rides to the meeting)
Generation teaching has been changed (now overlapping)
1919 has been dropped
Importance of Russell has been minimized
Faithful and discrete slave is now the Governing Body, instead of the remnant of the 144k
Two Governing Body members died and one new one has been appointed
The remnant has increased so significantly (2013: 13204), that partakers are now referred to as ‘mentally imbalanced’ and is no longer used as a sign on how near the end must be
No apologies have been given and ‘apostates’ are now referred to as ‘mentally diseased’, helpers of Satan, sitting at the table with demons – treated less than human
Pressure not to follow higher education continues
Pressure not to associate with DFed persons, including family members and minor children continues and appears to increase. The destruction of families continues
Refusal of Blood still continues to cost many persons, including Children, their lives
Propaganda videos (Caleb and Sparlock) are now produced for young Children
Articles on displaying Christ-like behavior and cultivating the fruitage of the spirit remain absent
The literature still continues to focus on the letter of the law that on the spirit of it and therefore continues to be a Pharisee organization – an iron fist in a velvet glove
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do you think he really knows the bible like a hard-core christian apologist?
does he study non-stop or does use his head mining the internet looking up the latest homosexual conpiracies while wishing he could wear his wife's dress?.
You would not win, just as Dawkins cannot win from a creationist (see Youtube video of him with Wendy Wright). What does happen is that the creationist makes him/herself look ridiculous. In the case of Tony - just by his talk he has already made himself ridiculous - talking about wrong ties, tight pants, being homophobic, visiting Disney and more.
A true Christian leader would be talking about matters as cultivating the fruit of the spirit and Displaying Christlike Compassion - but such material is no longer taught by the witnesses. Even Jesus account of "he without sin cast the first stone" has been removed from their new "silver sword" Bible.
CULT!
i recently got a letter in my pillar box asking me to attend a meeting at the k.h.
i ignored the " kind" request.. this was folloed up by a " loving" phone call with the question " do i believe in the organisation" my reply.
" anyway what pissed me off was during the " loving" phone call i realized there was another " brother" listning in.
Of course you can leave the cult "gracefully" but you have to be aware of every move. Just like on this call, you had to be aware not to say anything that can be used against you. You took into account that someone could be listening (2 witnesses) or that it could be recorded. When elders come to visit, we know we cannot speak openly and critical.
Graceful would be openly stating you do not agree with the organization and therefore would no longer view yourself as a JW, yet to friends and family it would make no difference...
